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.fic/commentary: "On the Physics and Multiplicity of Time" for cesperanza's "Written by the Victors"

I have had a terrible time with writing the things I'm supposed to be writing, and to help me the brilliant [livejournal.com profile] dogeared suggested that I do something maybe a little bit weird and a little bit different to see if I can't get myself back on track. Because I'm not a very adventurous person, I thought I would revisit the manuscripts from [livejournal.com profile] cesperanza's Written by the Victors; although I haven't thought much about them for a while, I remember how much fun they were to put together, and they're fannish but not quite fic, and kind of amusing to do in that they let me laugh at myself a bit.

And even if it doesn't work and my mind still locks up when confronted with stuff that must be written, at least I had fun. Right? Right?

[Note: for stuff on the language, see here and here.]






Seador, Liant Universat MS A197, f. 8v

TEXT

Hnaui leisnir e to caitaith,
apsu orosa paerat miriu afagmeir
et etros miriu narsair anadhat
ceis illenando, leisi.

Leisnir sed imdavac
mi gaulos, mi garos, mi gelnos
sismi ces duni artacu menir narsat
vai vai ammi lomos ascer mecoa proimdat
ascerte thanidsa conior telat veirer,
amskanas: caine! Aecainim iltan naran.

Par garos, cen ngaleta as imbras
e nahadsi as mharir,
teretu umbreiste,
proanis e pleion comadsatse tilelim osat.

Miriu oros damoi, miriu aindhaite
e miridsa illenandi skandroi carrat.
Apsu sed Amadnir filiu Caiir serne telat
is polutropai amsis telaith ine damios aindhaiste.
Listen, student, and those who are capable
(because this lesson reveals many secrets
and unlocks many treasures
for those who have discernment), learn.

But, student, if thou wilt come
like unto an ass, a fool, an idiot,
like unto one whose mind hath the dimness of night
even as a nail which hath rust thereon,
and in whom is the stupidity of a gathering of bricks,
I tell thee: Turn back! Turn thy face from me.

Because a fool is a weight upon the heart
and an anxiety in the belly
and a trial to the nerves,
and wheresoever he turneth his hand is disaster.

For many are the worlds and many are the times,
and their multitude surpasseth human understanding.
But great is the knowledge of the creator McKay,
and he has as many ways as there are worlds and times.


COMMENTARY


While it is not the purpose of this commentary to explicate the doctrines of Rodney McKay (this has already been done in the exemplary work of Queroen 1100; see Samnad Archivist F9q-3S), no discussion of De physica et multitudine temporis (On the Physics and Multiplicity of Time) can be complete without acknowledgment, at least, of the impact the text has had on latter-day science and philosophy. Of its companion texts in the Liant Codex, the De physica is the most widely-attested work, with five hard copies known to exist and, by now, innumerable electronic versions. It is likely that the De physica's existence in book-form is wholly responsible for its preservation; the early loss of the memory-ship Theseus, which had a significant portion of its storage devoted to the sciences, meant that the first several generations of post-Ori Terrans had lost almost everything except for what hard copies of their texts survived. Even a millennium after the Return, we remain confronted with a heritage so broken, so scattered, even the most brilliant scientific minds among us stumble blindly.

The De physica is, fortunately, one of the few bright lights we have to guide us back to what once was; it is the text central to the doctrine of the Quaerentes in their attempts to regain the scientific utopia of the Lantean golden age, and likewise serves as the foundation text for university coursework in physics and metatemporal philosophy. Even without taking the text's contents into consideration, its preservation in the Liant Codex (on ff.8v-15r) and the intimate association of that codex with the familia of Rodney McKay and John Sheppard alone would secure it a place as one of the most important works in our intellectual and cultural heritage. While today we would recoil in horror at the thought of defacing a manuscript, the leaves containing the De physica show signs of use, lightly glossed in a Skani proto-Lantean variant as well as a colloquial form of Anglo-Lantean, attesting to the continued employment of the text in contemporary post-Schism Lantean society, and the wider society of Pegasus as a whole.

In terms of content, the De physica represents a sustained attempt by a fairly competent poet to render Amadnir McKay's extensive knowledge of wormhole and temporal physics in Skani verse, poetry being the traditional medium of Skani education. The opening four verses, composed in free-verse (but with occasional markers of more traditional poetic forms, such as envelope pattern and alliteration), establish both the necessity of knowledge and the unfortunate fact that many who attempt to read the De physica will lack the mental faculties to understand it. The derisive tone of these lines, and the way in which the glosses echo it very closely, suggest that the writers of the glosses were sympathetic with McKay's need to keep the De physica away from those who would misuse it. The gloss in the top margin, M.R. McKay PhD PhD identifies McKay explicitly, while the PhD PhD has been taken by Ganides (1081) as a deliberate deformation of the very early Skani pharad pharadir, "god of gods," and interpreted by Tolor Nehagani (1092) as evidence that the De physica, even from the earliest days after its composition, was considered a sacred text.

Of course, historical arguments suggest that Ganides (linguistic brilliance aside) and Nehagani may overstate their case, and that the opening four verses may simply constitute very emphatic evidence of McKay's impatience with those whose minds were less than agile. From what is known of Amadnir McKay, who is described by Ronon Dex as "a guy who talked a lot--a whole lot--but I've seen him shut people up just by looking at them" (Works and Days 2.599; see Nakaia Archivist L2m-1J), it is possible he dictated the raw material for the De physica, which was then reworked by a Skani poet. This is the view taken by biographer Romara Iscorides in The Creator; her close study of contemporary texts dealing with McKay has brought to light a particularly fascinating exchange between McKay and soerni Sheppard regarding a matter which, while mysterious to us, was obviously of significant importance to them:
"Oh my god, Sheppard, seriously, could you be any more... any more..." Sciens McKay stops talking, I think because he is no longer capable of doing so.

"Any more what?"

"Oh, I don't know. Obnoxiously petty? Twelve years old? Five years old? Honestly, erasing my high score, I ask you. Do people outside of myself, Teyla, and Ronon know you behave like this?"

And then Lord Sheppard says, "I don't think so."

"You're very convincing at playing dumb. Too convincing." Sciens McKay pauses; I cannot see him, but I imagine he has his eyes closed (as he often does in the labs, when attempting not to shout at the new scientists). "I demand a rematch. The Augusta Masters, eight o'clock. Don't be late."

Although the source is an admittedly sensationalist memoir, the anonymous In the Halls of the Ancients (Yahara Archivist L4i-3G), the more reliable autobiography of Praxane of Anos, a scientist who moved to Atlantis shortly following the Secession, refers frequently to McKay's legendary loquacity and capacity to frighten his subordinates: "I had thought myself knowledgeable," she writes ruefully, "but I spent that night crying in my room with Cleis [her wife], who provided little comfort" (Idemon Archivist H6e-8N). Later writers seemed compelled to memorialize McKay's impatience in addition to his unparalleled brilliance; the anonymous composer of the Return-era Hymnus ad Filium Caii conditorem refers to McKay in the same stanza as "the light above all lights" and the "thunder-voiced one, whose eye burns as blue fire and in whose mouth is lightning" (Thales 1112).

Iscorides' analysis of the Liant De physica leads her to conclude that the Anglo-Lantean glosses are the work, not of a student of McKay's (for which, see Brahan 1099, Yahara Archivist 1110), but of McKay himself, as a way of emphasizing the extent to which he considered the De physica's knowledge to be sacrosanct. The Quaerentes share this attitude, and look on the wide dissemination of the work as sacrilege; initiates into the order are forbidden to study the De physica until they have successfully completed the ten years of their novitiate and the pilgrimage to Old Atlantis, where it is said that Amadnir McKay will address those he deems worthy of full admission to the order. Iscorides' pro-Quaerentes leanings are perhaps most apparent here, and it is well to take her conclusions regarding the glosses with some caution.

A useful, although perhaps radical, corrective to Iscorides is the work of the late philosopher and critic Raheb Pythan. The Capture of Time (1118), his most famous work on traditional metatemporal philosophies, is in part a critique of Quaerentes-based approaches to physics and related fields and seeks to move science beyond what he saw as the modern-day obsession with, essentially, "resurrecting" Amadnir McKay:
Recapitulating McKayian paradigms of spatiotemporal theoretics is well and good, but have we not been returning to him for centuries, and have we not failed to find those shrines where, as some people would have it, we will be restored to all the knowledge that has been lost? I argue the only way for the sciences to survive--even, at the most fundamental level, to live--is for us to break free of McKay's long shadow and re-vision the universe for ourselves. (181)

To be sure, Pythan has his supporters, and in the two years since the publication of The Capture of Time, some scholars have advanced theories that may prove to be bridges between lost forms of knowledge and original discoveries. Still, these discoveries are likely to be based on new interpretations of the De physica and other texts in the McKay corpus, which forces Pythan to admit that, in the final assessment, "even across dividing time, his hand steers us yet."

Ronel Macara
Year 1120 of the Return
Liant Universat

Lux fiat pastore scienteque, et lux eorum vobis effulgeat.

[identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com 2008-04-19 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Fandom confession:

I STILL HAVE NOT READ WRITTEN BY THE VICTORS

:O

[identity profile] sheafrotherdon.livejournal.com 2008-04-19 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh-oh. I think you might be fired :-?

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I know!

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[identity profile] sheafrotherdon.livejournal.com 2008-04-19 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
bwahahahaha this is awesome! I love that Rodney is 'god of gods' and that he has blue fire in his eyes and lightning in his mouth. I love that one of his scientists is a lesbian (nicely slipped in there, aitches!) and that the "sensationalist" literature focuses on he and John playing video golf :)) So great!!

[identity profile] aesc.livejournal.com 2008-04-19 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Rodney is a Titan! \o/

I love the thought of scholars writing agitatedly about what or who the Augusta Masters are, because clearly they're important. People become bitter enemies over this debate.
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[personal profile] trobadora 2008-04-19 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG CAN I MARRY YOUR BRAIN?

[identity profile] aesc.livejournal.com 2008-04-19 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
As long as you can support it in the manner to which it wishes to become accustomed, yes! :D
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[personal profile] fleurrochard 2008-04-19 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
The gloss in the top margin, M.R. McKay PhD PhD identifies McKay explicitly, while the PhD PhD has been taken by Ganides (1081) as a deliberate deformation of the very early Skani pharad pharadir, "god of gods,"

*DIES LAUGHING*

Oh, this is just brilliant. *g* And the manuscript looks soooo pretty!

[identity profile] aesc.livejournal.com 2008-04-19 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you so much! I think Rodney views his promotion to godhood as inevitable :D

[identity profile] cesperanza.livejournal.com 2008-04-19 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
ok, so, for the--ahaha, record

Although the source is an admittedly sensationalist memoir, the anonymous In the Halls of the Ancients

THAT is where I started laughing uncontrollably and had to go wandering around my office, pulling my hair in joy. Holy crap. Please someone write this. I want to read the anonymous tell all!

Can I host this on the Victors page plz?

[identity profile] cesperanza.livejournal.com 2008-04-19 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Also: I just stare and stare at the manuscript itself. I feel like I could TOUCH it. You hit my document kink SO GODDAMNED HARD.

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[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_divya_/ 2008-04-19 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
while the PhD PhD has been taken by Ganides (1081) as a deliberate deformation of the very early Skani pharad pharadir, "god of gods,"

Oh my Rodney, I love you a lot. That's such a great detail, heeee.

[identity profile] aesc.livejournal.com 2008-04-19 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Rodney is your own personal Jesus! :D

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[personal profile] lazulus 2008-04-19 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I really love how Victors has spawned such fantastic responses from so many people in fandom. This is fabulous - funny and clever and the manuscript itself is beautiful!

[identity profile] aesc.livejournal.com 2008-04-19 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you so much! Victors hit my documentary button and held it down with both hands :)
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[identity profile] anatsuno.livejournal.com 2008-04-19 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
i need to come back to properly read this when i have a working brain! it fills me with joy just by its very existence. ♥

[identity profile] aesc.livejournal.com 2008-04-19 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Poor brains! They need rest from the past very long time of craziness :(

*gives it a Grant to cuddle*

[identity profile] dogeared.livejournal.com 2008-04-19 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I think Rodney would be REALLY PLEASED to know that his hand steers us yet. :D

[identity profile] aesc.livejournal.com 2008-04-19 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Clearly humanity isn't quite as hopelessly idiotic as Rodney believed it to be :D

[identity profile] tropes.livejournal.com 2008-04-19 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
HAHAHAHAAH God, you are a genius.

[identity profile] aesc.livejournal.com 2008-04-19 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
*snorfle!* Thank you!

[identity profile] randomeliza.livejournal.com 2008-04-19 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
This whole universe and your Lantean academic commentaries on it continue to be possibly my favourite thing ever written in any fandom. This bit in particular:

The gloss in the top margin, M.R. McKay PhD PhD identifies McKay explicitly, while the PhD PhD has been taken by Ganides (1081) as a deliberate deformation of the very early Skani pharad pharadir, "god of gods," and interpreted by Tolor Nehagani (1092) as evidence that the De physica, even from the earliest days after its composition, was considered a sacred text.

HEE. Rodney would approve so, so much. Because that is CLEARLY what PhD stands for - or ought to stand for, anyway. *loves*

[identity profile] aesc.livejournal.com 2008-04-19 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Awwww thank you! These are so much fun to do, and it's so awesome that SGA appears to attract people who like this sort of thing :D

Because that is CLEARLY what PhD stands for - or ought to stand for, anyway. *loves*

I agree with him totally.

[identity profile] kassrachel.livejournal.com 2008-04-19 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
the PhD PhD has been taken by Ganides (1081) as a deliberate deformation of the very early Skani pharad pharadir, "god of gods," and interpreted by Tolor Nehagani (1092) as evidence that the De physica, even from the earliest days after its composition, was considered a sacred text.

Ahahahahaha!

This whole thing is awesome, but that's the line that cracked me up the most. Because that is totally what happens. \o/!

[identity profile] aesc.livejournal.com 2008-04-19 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
It's only a matter of time, really, before the universe realizes that it would be a whole lot better if Rodney was deified :D
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[personal profile] trinity_clare 2008-04-19 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
*can't stop grinning*

All of this is awesome, but the PhD PhD business is AMAZING.

[identity profile] aesc.livejournal.com 2008-04-19 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! If PhDhood were closer to godhood, the past several years of my life might actually be worthwhile :D

[identity profile] lavvyan.livejournal.com 2008-04-19 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
while the PhD PhD has been taken by Ganides (1081) as a deliberate deformation of the very early Skani pharad pharadir, "god of gods,"

Ohh, Rodney would love that, wouldn't he? :D

This is fabulous! ♥

[identity profile] aesc.livejournal.com 2008-04-19 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
He would view it as only right and natural :D

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[identity profile] thatratorpheus.livejournal.com 2008-04-19 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Hee! Wheels within wheels. "Lessons of the Student, Kavanagh" (this means you) - The Great God Rodney's teachings told through Kavanagh's adventures in stupidity.

[identity profile] aesc.livejournal.com 2008-04-19 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you so much! I think by the time this is written, Kavanagh becomes slang for anyone who is technically too stupid to be allowed to live :D

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[identity profile] thisissirius.livejournal.com 2008-04-19 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
\o/

*utter glee* this is so cool and amazing and fun and - oh, rodney. VIDEO GOLF. i love this to pieces and documents! that's my favourite part of the victors verse. i only wish there were more D:

Although the source is an admittedly sensationalist memoir, the anonymous In the Halls of the Ancients

i want this, too and i agree that it would have one of those horrible covers ;) there'd probably be those banners that have BOOK OF THE MONTH or whatever and it would win all the book prizes. just for being that ... whatever it is you would call it.

i'd buy it, though :D

[identity profile] aesc.livejournal.com 2008-04-20 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, so would I. For the prose. Certainly not for the pictures. Certainly not.

omg GOD OF GODS

[identity profile] justalurkr.livejournal.com 2008-04-19 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I can see a crossover with Doctor Who now: one quick trip to the future of the Pegasus Galaxy has Rodney nodding as if all of this is manifest destiny, and John is running around going "it means PILED HIGHER AND DEEPER!" and the Minister of Culture is laughing his ass off while Queen Teyla is straightening out whatever mess her successors have going.

Re: omg GOD OF GODS

[identity profile] aesc.livejournal.com 2008-04-20 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Rodney nodding as if all of this is manifest destiny, and John is running around going "it means PILED HIGHER AND DEEPER!"

Yes, yes, exactly! Rodney's apotheosis is clearly only a matter of time.

[identity profile] notfoundyet.livejournal.com 2008-04-19 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm joining in to say that I love this universe and I love this fic. (The whole narrative of this universe hits all of my buttons, seriously.)

This fandom continues to amaze me, because it had just spawned so much awesome!!

[identity profile] aesc.livejournal.com 2008-04-20 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you very kindly! I really love Victors for the way it hints at everything that could be, and it's so much fun to imagine some of those things.

And we really do have a great place here :D

[identity profile] rilestar.livejournal.com 2008-04-20 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, bless you, you fabulous dork!

[identity profile] aesc.livejournal.com 2008-04-20 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
Eeeee, thank you! May the blessings of McKay be upon you!
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2008-04-20 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I'm so glad you did another of these! I simply love "documentation" fic, pseudo-historical treatises and so forth. This is fantastic and I just can't stop giggling at the very idea of Rodney's reaction to having his physics treatises translated into epic poetry.

[identity profile] aesc.livejournal.com 2008-04-20 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you!! I think Rodney would view it as simply the next step in an inevitable progression :D
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[personal profile] flyakate 2008-04-20 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
I wonder what it is about SGA (or maybe about fandom, but especially this one) that means we all have a warm fuzzy love for documents and ephemera belonging to the universe. Whatever it is, I love it to bits.

The idea of the double PhDs meaning Rodney was a god was all kinds of awesome. I also just love the academic quality to the language (which I know you've come by honestly XD) and the text's structure (and the little nests of dissent and kerfuffle and the mildly snooty words that people use in academics to disagree, that was amusement all its own).

A great new lens for the Victors universe. Love it!

[identity profile] aesc.livejournal.com 2008-04-20 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
I wonder what it is about SGA (or maybe about fandom, but especially this one) that means we all have a warm fuzzy love for documents and ephemera belonging to the universe.

It does seem like there are a whole bunch of document-inclined people in SGA, doesn't it? An interest in picking apart "texts" has been the common thread in my various fandoms, but it's only in SGA that I've seen people be interested in the artifact itself, and what it can represent. Even in LotR, not so much.

But I agree, whatever the cause, it's pretty awesome :D

[identity profile] raiining.livejournal.com 2008-04-20 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
Dude, these are so awesome. And this one really rang for me. I loved the text, obviously, and I adored the PhD PhD argument, but I can completely see this text - the last paragraph especially - as a real live discussion.

In the history of medicine there were arguments just like that last one with regards to Galen - for centuries doctors tried to emulate the works of this one notable ancient physican and whatever mistakes he made were made over and over again because people refused to see past him. And this could SO BE McKay in year 000+.

I love these realisitic fictions of yours. They bring such a sweeping glimpse of history - the knowledge that "this too shall pass." It's lovely and a little heartbreaking. Excellent addition!

[identity profile] aesc.livejournal.com 2008-04-20 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
and whatever mistakes he made were made over and over again because people refused to see past him.

And then there were the Anglo-Saxons, who were a bit miffed because a lot of the plants recommended in the pharmacopoeias didn't even grow in England, so some of the medical knowledge they inherited was pretty much useless to them.

and a little heartbreaking.

There is a sort of... sadder or more serious side to these, an alternate future history, I suppose, where a large group of Lanteans go back to Earth and are essentially trapped there, and lose a lot of the knowledge they'd brought with them. And now they're back in the Pegasus Galaxy a few thousand years later, trying to recover everything they've lost. It's the SGA/Victors equivalent of what I spend an awful lot of time reading: "we know the monastery at X had a good library, but it was destroyed during a viking raid; we know the cathedral library at Y was large enough to sustain serious scholarly endeavor, but we know of only two manuscripts that belonged to it because part of the cloister burned down during the dissolution."

*sigh*

[identity profile] elizabeth perry (from livejournal.com) 2008-04-20 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
::claps so hard:: OMG aitches, this -- *points* -- and that -- *points* -- and OMG this -- *points more* -- *ends up flailing*

[identity profile] aesc.livejournal.com 2008-04-20 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
:D Thank you!
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[identity profile] nightdog-barks.livejournal.com 2008-04-20 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
This is just brilliant. I especially loved this tiny note:

"I had thought myself knowledgeable," she writes ruefully, "but I spent that night crying in my room with Cleis [her wife], who provided little comfort" (Idemon Archivist H6e-8N).

Cleis
.

Sappho's daughter. ♥

[identity profile] aesc.livejournal.com 2008-04-20 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
Cleis.

Sappho's daughter. ♥


\o/ \o/ Yes yes!

[identity profile] tardis80.livejournal.com 2008-04-20 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
AHHH [livejournal.com profile] aesc HOW ARE YOU SO AWESOME?!!! Words cannot express how delighted I am that "If you're dumber than a bag of hammers, quit reading right now" = " But, student, if thou wilt come/like unto an ass, a fool, an idiot,/like unto one whose mind hath the dimness of night/even as a nail which hath rust thereon,/and in whom is the stupidity of a gathering of bricks, I tell thee: Turn back! Turn thy face from me."

ILU ♥♥♥

[identity profile] aesc.livejournal.com 2008-04-20 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
Eeeee, thank you!!! ♥♥♥♥

I just love the idea of Rodney insulting someone in King Jamesian English, or someone thinking that's how Rodney insults people :D (That bit came from a perpetually-frustrated fic where people thousands of years from now find Rodney's hologram [not poor sad Rodney from Lost Man] in the Atlantis database and they think he's a god who threatens to smite them and speaks in this archaic dialect.)

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