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I would laugh, but...
It's really just too sad.
Gingrich pretty much sums up why I believe most social conservatives--at least, the ones I hear and the ones I'm unfortunate enough to deal with-- are people who embrace not history, but a dangerously misguided nostalgia for "traditional religion." Historic Christianity had a great time burning Jews and heretics, traveling to the Holy Land to kill Muslims, and once the Reformation came around, killing other Christians. The vast majority of Christianity's history has been concerned with its overwhelming fear not of secularists (or gays, which was not even a term recognized until the twentieth century), but of other religions, its own inability to develop and sustain a cohesive and contiguous theology, and its power struggles with political institutions it wanted to control.
I hate it when people treat history like this. I really, sincerely hate it, and I hate it almost as much as the fact that people like Gingrich consistently get away it.
A couple of quotations to sum up my thoughts, because I'm too tired to do it properly:
The misuse of language induces evil in the soul. Socrates
To be innocent of the variety of ways in which humans have mythologized or proscribed what they do with their genitals is to be unfit for being a moralist, much less a scholar of morals. Mark Jordan, The Invention of Sodomy (which book I very highly recommend)
*hits Gingrich over the head with this*
(It's also worth noting Mark Jordan is a gay man of faith (Catholic) and taught at the University of Notre Dame. The conclusion to his book, from which this excerpt is taken, is a plea to other Christians to reconsider tradition and history, and the relationships they hold.)
I think that it [the evil secular gay fascists] is a very dangerous threat to anybody who believes in traditional religion. And I think if you believe in historic Christianity, you have to confront the fact.
Gingrich pretty much sums up why I believe most social conservatives--at least, the ones I hear and the ones I'm unfortunate enough to deal with-- are people who embrace not history, but a dangerously misguided nostalgia for "traditional religion." Historic Christianity had a great time burning Jews and heretics, traveling to the Holy Land to kill Muslims, and once the Reformation came around, killing other Christians. The vast majority of Christianity's history has been concerned with its overwhelming fear not of secularists (or gays, which was not even a term recognized until the twentieth century), but of other religions, its own inability to develop and sustain a cohesive and contiguous theology, and its power struggles with political institutions it wanted to control.
I hate it when people treat history like this. I really, sincerely hate it, and I hate it almost as much as the fact that people like Gingrich consistently get away it.
A couple of quotations to sum up my thoughts, because I'm too tired to do it properly:
The misuse of language induces evil in the soul. Socrates
To be innocent of the variety of ways in which humans have mythologized or proscribed what they do with their genitals is to be unfit for being a moralist, much less a scholar of morals. Mark Jordan, The Invention of Sodomy (which book I very highly recommend)
Many Christians have come to believe that the official teachings on same-sex pleasure are inadequate both to their own experience and to the Gospel... This is not the first time that the body of believers has reached an impasse in moral reflection. Something very similar happened with the question of chattel slavery just over a century ago--as it happened with the doctrine of justifiable war in the 1960s. In every case the question has been the same: How does one honor the tradition while being faithful to the Gospel and to the impulses of God in the present? In ever case, the beginning of an answer was the same. Believers had to free themselves from fundamental misunderstandings about the character of Christian moral tradition. Part of freedom is to remember how fragile our relation to that tradition is, so far as it is a relation dependent on the reading of inherited texts. (Jordan, Invention 170)
*hits Gingrich over the head with this*
(It's also worth noting Mark Jordan is a gay man of faith (Catholic) and taught at the University of Notre Dame. The conclusion to his book, from which this excerpt is taken, is a plea to other Christians to reconsider tradition and history, and the relationships they hold.)
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Dear me. Quite apart from my own reading, life with "my daughter the theologian" leads inexorably to the questions "Which ones? When are you talking about?" Currently we both have a liking for the situation in Gaul in Late Antiquity - Christians attending the synagogues as well as the churches (because they liked the sermons)*; drop-outs living in communes (nuns). And we're both fascinated by the cyclical nature of religion in England: the recurring pattern of claims that organised religion has lost the place and there should be a return to the message of the Gospel against a background of continuity. So which is "traditional" for England? York Minster, Westminster Abbey and Canterbury, or the Lollards and their heirs?
*This included the Bishop of Lyons
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For most Americans, "traditional" really means "Great Awakening evangelical Protestantism," which basically equates with license for willful ignorance when it comes to doctrine. (Since, you know, it is the only religion that has EVER EXISTED EVER.) It also means they can ignore their history; many evangelicals were at the forefront of both emancipation and women's suffrage in the early/mid-1800s, and it was mostly Northern Methodist and Baptist churches that sponsored education and housing programs for blacks after the Civil War. While I hate the sort of condescending "teach the simple black folk who don't know no better" attitude in church-sponsored education pamphlets, at least these people were aware of intrinsic human rights and the hypocrisy of people who insisted on robbing a whole group of individuals of their rights in the name of economic expedience.
Try to tell someone that now, in an argument as to why gay marriage is not the great evil conservatives make it out to be, and they'll calmly tell you it isn't a moral crime to be black, but it is to be gay. Try to tell someone that gay marriage (or for that matter homosexuality) isn't actually 1.) in the Ten Commandments, or 2.) in the Gospels as spoken by Christ--and, to my knowledge, isn't even in the Pauline letters because Paul is too busy being a misogynist and they look at you and say even the Devil can quote scripture.
Oh, for a lightning bolt.